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yep

I am earnestly trying to ready your criticism and understand them. You list several quotes:
"Hollering," "petty" "just a wife," "claws come out"
But with the exception of "just a wife" none of them are sexist. And Obama never said that!

Obama could complain about McCain Hollering petty complaints when his claws come out in anger, and this would not be sexist (or even attempting to feminize McCain). So I really think you are stretching here.

I do believe that Clinton has been the victim of (and has been amazingly triumphant over) sexism. But not by Obama. The sexism happened when she was first lady and was characterized as either a frigid, calculating, ice queen lesbian, or a manipulating Lady MacBeth who oversexed her husband and killed Vince Foster (with whom she was having an affair).

I really think that you are trivializing all of the calculated efforts to destroy her character that happened in the 90s that she has fought hard and overcome at the expense of rationalizing and making excuses for what has been a poorly run campaign.

She would have been a fantastic President. But we should not act like it was Obama that brought her down. The fact that she was the presumptive nominee until two months ago is an amazing accomplishment. Obama attacked her because she was the frontronner, not because she is a woman.

yvonne saenger

I think women really need to organize now and penalize the media for the horrible sexism that has permeated reporting on this election. (Just see Maureen Dowd's recent column, aptly titled "All about Eve which essentially states that Clinton must be a nasty, calculating person because she is female.) I have heard horrible comments on TV that she "has to be the smartest girl in the class," and has "mood swings." There are T shirts for men saying "Hillary, iron my shirt," and Hillary Clinton nut crackers. Why do we have to put up with this?

dfb

I tend to agree with the first comment. The evidence presented here is not proof of sexism on Obama's part. While Clinton certainly has been the victim of sexism, it has come mostly from pundits and the awful makers of the Hillary nutcracker. Just as it is a stretch to interpret Clinton's comments as racist, it is a stretch to say Obama's are sexist. For example, the "periodically" comment was made during a debate, and was clearly not a scripted statement. Obama was not able to choose his words as carefully as he would have liked to. Considering that fact, I doubt that Obama intended to say something sexist. For the most part, Obama has treated Hillary just as he would a male opponent. His negative attacks have been the result of politics, not sexism. While you are quite right about Obama's unfair portrayal of Hillary's healthcare failure, it is not necessarily sexist for him to question how much experience she can claim from her time as first lady. From a feminist standpoint, I believe that this primary season should be considered a victory. Clinton proved to be a very strong candidate, and clearly could have won the nomination. Polls show that she would be a strong general election candidate. It was poor strategy, not her gender, that cost her the nomination.

p.s.
"I was in law school for three years with young men like Barack." Is that not a gender stereotype? Certainly there are men in law school who aren't sexist and might be offended by that comment.

tmn

"p.s.
"I was in law school for three years with young men like Barack." Is that not a gender stereotype? Certainly there are men in law school who aren't sexist and might be offended by that comment."
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She did not say every young man in law school, she was referring to the one's she compares to Barak. I think it is pretty safe to assume there were at least a few sexist men in law school. Not all...but at least ONE! You would have to be exremely naive to believe otherwise. And yes, it does refer to gender doesn't it? We are talking about gender.

And regarding the "claws coming out" comment, this is not one used to describe a man going on the attack or defending himself. It is a typical turn of phrase used to indicate a cat fight, aka women fighting. Of course Obama would not use it to describe McCain. The bottom line is that he said some pretty offensive, sexist remarks. You can try to interpret them as harmless, but if you are a woman who has ever been subjected to a sexist male, the remarks are obviously sexist. It's not a stretch of the imagination.

Eric

The "periodically" issue is such a reach. No where is periodically defined in common or slang usage as sexist except on these fringe crazy people blogs. And that means, if it's not even mentioned anywhere as a slang or derogatory word, then the use of it is so incredibly obscure that few if any people could possibly get that intent. Now if would have said "menopausally" I would agree with you 6000%. But come on. Extend Sen. Obama the same courtesy that was given to "sniper-gate".

Lisa Nuss

Eric -
You miss the point. It wasn't the word "periodically," although Barack prides himself on his words so you have to believe it was an intentional choice. The point was he said "periodically, when she's down..." - he suggested she said something inappropriate because she was moody. That's a character attack. Her comments were traditional political comments in a campaign and instead of taking her seriously, he calls her moody. This is consistent with Barack's snipy below the belt personal and character attacks that marked his divisive and negative dirty politics campaign.

I have decided I can't ethically vote for Barack, because he lacks ethics and I don't trust him. I'm still debating leaving the democratic party and registering as an independent.

Lisa Nuss

Readers -

Over the years I have deleted very few comments. Two or three were from men, writing anonymously, using dehumanizing and sexually degrading expletives to describe Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Today I deleted one from a man calling a discussion of sexism in the campaign as "garbage." I won't spend my time and energy responding to comments that degrade like that. I leave most angry negative comments on because they speak for themselves. I leave comments on that raise disagreements with my points because they launch thoughtful discussion.

But as I said before, I stopped writing for most internet sites because the onslaught of angry male anonynmous commenters began to direct the nature of the commentary. Women started reacting to the male anger and letting that anger frame the discussion.

I won't let male anger frame the discussion on my blog. A male political candidate who degrades a female candidate in attempt to make her look less serious is a problem. To analyze that behavior is to confront the problem. Dismissing legitimate discussion as "garbage" isn't worth my time to respond to nor my readers' time, in my opinion.

demwit

I'm glad I discovered this blog by accident! The analysis is accurate and not emotional.

Yes, Obama was sexist in all the remarks quoted in the blog essay. He also has a general unconscious tendency to be condescending to women, calling them"Sweetie" or putting his hand on their shoulder without permission. One of the clearest examples of sexism was against Geraldine Ferraro in March. When Ferraro talked in an interview by an obscure newspaper about the intertwining of gender and race in 2008, Axelrod brought it out of obscurity -- and out of context -- and claimed Ferraro was making "sinister" racial remarks about Obama, which she wasn't at all, as the newspaper text makes clear. When she tried to defend herself, Axelrod claimed she was using the race card, although that was exactly what he himself had done. Then it was pointed out that Obama had made very similar remarks about himself a few years before, so the matter was dropped -- although the media treated Axelrod/Obama's claim as if it were simply a fact. Then Obama, knowing he'd said the same thing, nevertheless unfairly and inaccurately paired Ferraro with Rev. Wright as an extremist twice in his speech on race in America. Obama knew what he was doing, and he also surely realized that he could never get away with this double-talk and defamation if Ferraro were male.

I think there were two other forms of sexism by Obama and his campaign:
1. The wholesale use of misogynistic words and epithets recycled from Rush Limbaugh and the Repubicans. Typical was "B*****y," a sexist word that tries to shrink Hillary to nothing but the extension of her husband. Or "monster," spoken by a female Obama advisor. Obama never thought he needed to apologize to Hillary for this outrageous word, which will surely never be used against McCain, a male candidate. The blogs were filled with even worse language about Hillary, much of it gender-specific.
2. While Hillary used negative campaigning to attack Obama's job qualifications, the Obama campaign constantly made ad hominem attacks on Hillary's character. Millions of people now believe, incredibly, that Hillary is profoundly racist, amoral, ruthless, stupid, and incompetent. The fake charges of racism were probably never meant to be provable, since the press always treated them simply as fact. Neither Obama nor the press are willing to make similar false charges against the male candidate McCain, because they know there would be strong pushback. The Obama campaign has clearly not tried to demonize McCain in the way it did to Hillary. In America in 2008, it's all right to attack a female candidate's character and her whole being, while male candidates do not have their whole being or their right to exist as a candidate questioned.

There is an interesting article called "Hating Hillary" in New Statesman (5/22) by a Briton named Stephen. He seems to be more objective than most American male journalists, many of whom unconsciously male-bonded with Obama. A link to it might be helpful.

John

Obama is a total sexist. Remember how he called the female reporter in Michigan "sweetie?" She knew that she was being discriminated against when she signed off by saying, "Well, this sweetie never did get an answer to the question." He did it against Hillary and now he is calling Palin a pig with lipstick. Obama is as sexist as David Duke is racist.

rice

Hello! Nice topic. I think Obama is a vile sexist. Remeber the remark about his grandmother being a "typical white woman?" What the heck is that supposed to mean??? This woman raised him and helped him to the academic level he's reached. What if someone responded to Obama, "Oh? Was your father behaving as typical black male when he left your mother alone to raise you??" Or how abour this..., imagine if the reporter Obama called "sweetie" repsonded to him as "boy"..., hmmm, might have been interesting. BTW, before anyone tries to clobber me, allow me to share that I'm 1/2 black and white, born to WWII generation parents and worked my way up from mopping floors in hospitals to obtaining an ivy league MD. I can assure you that I've seen this militant, female intolerant attitude before in Obama types and find it repulsive.

mary

Just a belated reader from Canada. I read the statement from someone above who was apparently (as a male most likely) offended due to the fact that the writer mentions the sexism she encountered in her law school which was similar to the sexism allegedly employed by Baracck to diminish HIllary. Well, statistically, this offended politically correct female or indignant male may want to hear that up here, the same misogynist frat-boy mentality is prevalent at ALL our Law Schools. And we had to put up with such nonsense that denies Women's human rights. As for Barack Himself, well, what in Zeus' posterior does "PERIODICALLY" mean to you, Einstein of Pscychology of Gender 101? Obamarama was clearly putting a woman down cause she happens to haemorrhage on a monthly basis. Is this hormonally challenged by HIS testosterone macho-oratorical standards? Don't think so, buddy! And Hillary's "feeling down" so her "claws come out", eh?" How about telling them folk that "Baravck's just shucking and jivin' at the porch taking easy like always, not willing to lift his finger to do some serious work". The lovely Obamarama media would jump on Hillary and label her "racist". And what about Barrack's playing the RACE CARD shamelessly throughout?

"I don't look like any of these Presidents on the dollar bills..." Well, what do we have here, boys? A crying chicken boy from Hawaii who can't take defeat unless he has to attribute his loss to "racist" proclivities? What a crybaby from Honolulu! A real lulu!

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